Tuesday, August 23, 2011

Tim Turner - WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND

http://restoredusa.blogspot.com/2011_03_01_archive.html

Even truth can wear different faces as it comes to the perception of individuals. Sometimes its ramifications are too painful to absorb completely and sometimes it may even present itself in alternate interpretations but in the end the bottom line is the basic truth. In the case of Tim Turner some of those bottom line facts are;
RuSA was never meant to succeed from the moment it morphed from a movement to a fantasy. The moment Turner announced the original funders required an “interim” government we should all have seen the big red flags and realized it was a de facto trap.
Tim Turner has been caught red handed many times in outrageous lies in public, on calls and in writing.
There have been numerous times Turner has made “presidential” decisions, issued orders or promises of orders to governors and other officials in his Republic only to have his “cabinet” members deliberately ignore or deliberately do the opposite.
Without fail when his “cabinet” countermands him he suddenly either can’t remember ever having given the order or suddenly takes the stand that he never said that and attacks the person he said it too even though there may have been multiple witnesses.
On Monday night’s governors call Turner and company went to great lengths to shift blame for CRIMES he and his cronies have committed onto one of his own, (hand picked by him) in addition to the only honorable man who ever came forth with funding opportunities. He paints two women in Florida as silly well meaning dupes after he personally gave them the go ahead before they held a national call on the previous Sunday. So we now see honor is as absent in Turnerville as it is in Washington D.C.
The Republic Governor of West Virginia copied me into a letter he sent out to his assembly yesterday and he is a man I highly respect. He has dealt with unconscionable accusations from Turners inner circle, manipulation of a couple of very twisted elected officials in his state and vicious public attack and still he remains loyal to Turner even though he sees the truth of the corrupted foundation of RuSA. I paste here his email message and my responses are in red.
Folks, I don’t agree with all of Teri Hinkle’s statements, OR her
attitude towards Tim Turner, but I have to weigh in on this – just to
correct her mistakes and let my stance be known. By so doing, I’m
sure that I will be thrown into Teri Hinkle’s camp – and be vilified.
(Tell the truth – get crucified – so what else is new?) I had read
very little of what Teri has had to say because I thought she was a de
facto agent – trying to destroy the republic. (if that is true the de facto is EXTREMELY LATE WITH MY PAYCHECK!) I’m 60 years old. I’ve
known about the private Federal Reserve, false flag operations – and
how the media and education had been more than compromised since I was
a teenager.
Before I go any farther, Tim Turner is the bravest man I’ve ever
met. He joined the ranks of those Americans who faced down the
money-changers – the counterfeiters: Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln,
James Garfield, William McKinley, and John F Kennedy. I do NOT
appreciate anyone who vilifies him. On this we will have to agree to disagree however even though all evidence points to Turner’s willing co-operation now, I will concede that he could be controlled. That may explain why his every decision and decree is countermanded by his overblown lying idiot of a vice president and the inept and thoroughly dishonest Media Boy.
Godly, constitutional government is the greatest threat to the
money-changers. These paper-printers – who’ve tried to buy the world
with their paper ‘money’ – have access to technology we can only
imagine – don’t want to imagine. From what I’ve learned from people
who knew Tim in the past, he couldn’t be bought, blackmailed, coerced
– or made to stand down. He really was offered an unimaginable sum of
money to stop doing what he was doing – returning Godly,
constitutional government to America. The criminals who wanted to
stop what he was doing – called in their best experts to stop this man
AND subvert him to their purpose – the utter destruction of what’s
left of constitutional common law government – and flat-out murdering
him would have martyred Tim. As I said I cannot disprove that he is an “unwilling puppet” but all roads lead to the same hell and that doesn’t erase his lies and deliberate control and manipulation of the people. It doesn’t change the fact that his Republic doesn’t even RESEMBLE what our founders created.
I understand more than most about puppet-masters and their puppets.
I KNOW how the dark side thinks. (I lived it for a while before I got
Saved in ’73.) Long ago, I also knew a reporter who told me what his
editors wouldn’t let him print.

Chisel this in stone: Corruption is always AT LEAST ONE LEVEL HIGHER
THAN THE CORRUPTION YOU CAN SEE! Think in terms of puppet-masters and
puppets. Never blame the trapped for the trap – or how hard it is to
get out of the trap.

Now – before puppet-masters can BE puppet-masters – they must trap
their puppets – whether they’re willing puppets or unwilling puppets.
PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN TRAPPED AGAINST THEIR WILL – BY THE TRAP-MASTERS
AND PUPPET-MASTERS IN THIS WORLD – ARE AMONG THE MOST MISUNDERSTOOD
PEOPLE – IN THIS WORLD! Got it?

Whether I’m right or wrong, I think that ‘something’ happened to Tim
in California – in April of 2010. He just – changed. You can see his
videos prior to that time – then look at the Windwalker Ranch videos –
then make up your mind about what I’ve just said. That said, I think
that anything Tim did after that 3-week disappearance in April 2010 –
was done by remote control – of some sort. Methinks that Tim trusted
people he shouldn’t have trusted. (Haven’t we all?) As one of Tim’s
long-time friends said ‘He went to California, and fell in with a
bunch of really bad people.’ I too have received many emails and calls with similar info.
I was not aware of all this – several months ago. From talking to
people who knew Tim well – before and after April 2010 – he appears to
be surrounded by visible handlers. I think that he and his handlers
are actually run by some VERY SCARY invisible handlers who have made
access to Tim – difficult at best. I believe that these handlers have
turned this into something that is designed to not only fail – but to
TRAP ANY who have signed onto it. This is now confirmed fact.

I’m an avowed pacifist – ‘blessed are the peacemakers’ – and I got
involved in the republic for one and only one reason – to try to stop
or minimize the horrendous bloodshed & suffering that
economic/societal collapse always brings. That – is my personal
agenda. I have been preparing for this economic/societal meltdown
we’re facing – at least mentally – since the middle ‘70s. I saw
RAP/RuSA – as America’s last chance to return to Godly, constitutional
government – without bloodshed or minimal bloodshed. Incidentally, I
saw through RAP – LONG before it was exposed as evil. I wish I’d seen
through RuSA!

I had noted what amounted to an endless string of plans, personnel,
paperwork, followed by plausible deniability excuses why something
hadn’t worked – presented along with yet the next plan. Broken
promises became the ‘norm.’ Early on, I had noted ‘divide to conquer’
tactics between the ‘ambassador program’ and the governors for
instance.
With time, we saw that they just didn’t do what they said they were
going to do. First instance: We needed promotion. I contacted
several patriot radio show hosts – asked them to contact Rick Rios –
the first media contact person. I contacted Rick w/the show hosts’
info. Rick Rios didn’t contact them, nor did he return their e-mails.
(?!?) Shall I waste a few pages – with all the broken promises? I
think not. I’ll just say they are legion - - - I had a similar experience with Mr. Rios but at this point the jury is still out on him. I am not convinced he is guilty of anything but rather is hoodwinked.

I will refer to the consortium of people who are AROUND Tim as
‘national’ – not to be confused with Tim. I believe they have
hijacked the republic. WHEN I SAY ‘NATIONAL’ I DO NOT MEAN – TIM
TURNER! Got it? In my estimation you can no longer separate by willing or not; the actions lead to the same place.

Insofar as what happened in West Virginia – and we ain’t neer as dum
as yoo think we is: Over a month ago, two senators started calling
members, flinging groundless false accusations about me. (Folks, I’m
really not a drunken, anti-Christian Masonic devil-worshipping rapist
who is too stupid to be a ‘governor.’ And just for the record – I
‘govern’ – NOTHING – except myself!) I can only imagine what would
power people who would spend SO much time – vilifying me to one person
after another – with first one false accusation – followed by another
– making total fools of themselves. (divide to conquer – orchestrated
by ‘national’? you got it.) Then, these two senators wrote up their
constitution – that they said was the West Virginia constitution.
Very few people saw it.

A few weeks ago, ‘TLGA’ made a post on ‘Greg’s blog’ – that stated
that West Virginia was next – on the chopping block – information that
somehow leaked out of ‘national.’ Another gov sent me the blog link.
I knew what had happened in other states that had been busted up with
the help of national ‘ambassador’ Jim Fitzgerald – and the SAME THING
was happening in West Virginia. It had become ‘textbook.’ This was a
crucify-the-governor operation – designed to bust up the state. I had
NO IDEA – that TLGA was Teri Hinkle. (had I known it, I would have
ignored the post – OK?) Actually I find it amazing that there are still any who don’t know that. I have never hidden it in fact have explained the reason many times but that’s neither here nor there and changes nothing.
Then – these two senators called for a constitution conference call
– and we were going to have at least TWO ‘special guests’ – from
‘national’ – one of whom was Jim Fitzgerald – national ‘ambassador.’
(ambassador – like Henry Kissinger was an ambassador?) It wasn’t a
constitution call. It was a crucify-Jimmy call – and I chose not to
attend – didn’t want to serve as the toilet at the party. Members got
so mad, they hung up and called ME. (then they couldn’t get back on
the call.) One of them said some psychoanalyst was analyzing my
e-mails. He said that was like a second-grader – critiquing the work
of a PhD. One member referred to her as ‘the chainsaw.’ Our false
accusers (the senators) did a real good job of hanging themselves – in
view of our republic. HEY – RuSA – TRUTH ALWAYS OUTLASTS LIES! Got
it?
The day after the failed crucifixion call, I came home, saw ‘Teri
Hinkle’ on Caller ID. Oh boy – satan’s half-sister was on the phone!
I decided to call her back – because even if she was satan’s sister –
her post had helped save West Virginia’s collective butt. She and I
had a long talk. She started trashing Tim. I would not put up with
that. She gave me some people to contact – and a whole lot of good
info that I verified. OK – maybe she’s only satan’s first cousin - - Thanks for the promotion but I’m really just a female patriot and not a young one, who will not stand for corruption, betrayal, manipulation and harm to innocent people when there is anything I can do to change it.
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I don’t know that Teri will post this paragraph – or anything I’ve
written – but I need to correct her on a few things. Teri said that
there was a string of about a hundred false accusations. CORRECTION:
A few people made the same few asinine false accusations – over and
over – about a hundred times. I stand corrected, my source may have misunderstood or I may even have heard wrong. Teri said the call went on for 3 ½
hours. It went shy of three hours. Again I was told 3 and a half but after 3 hours of false attack what’s another half hour? Teri said that they unseated West
Virginia. They failed to get enough signatures. Make no mistake Governor you are unseated. Votes or no votes they will accept ONE person claiming to BE THE ASSEMBLY OF WEST VIRGINIA and it definitely isn’t the first time that has occurred.
That said: I DO NOT APPRECIATE HER TRASHING TIM TURNER. SHE HAS NOT
WALKED IN HIS SHOES! SHE HAS NO IDEA – WHAT PRESSURE HE IS UNDER OR
FROM WHOM OR WHERE! Would she be in the crowd – screaming ‘Crucify
Him! Crucify Him!’ ??? No, I don’t believe in MOB RULE! She sees him as the devil himself. NO that seat is already taken but he is one of the minions, willing or not and it doesn’t matter which. I see him
as the bravest man I’ve ever met – who has been the victim of the most
complex – contorted attack I’ve EVER seen – by those evil ones who
only want to destroy him, his message, AND ANYBODY WHO AGREES WITH
WHAT TIM TURNER HAS TRIED TO DO – RETURN OUR GOVERNMENT TO WE THE
PEOPLE! Here’s my message to Teri: ‘You’re trashing the wrong man!
Trash his handlers!’ Got it? Again I highly respect you and your opinion but on this one we just have to agree to disagree. As I pointed out above, either way leads to the same hell.

Here’s my message for you folks: We KNOW what ‘national’ tried to do
in West Virginia. It didn’t work. I don’t care whether you think
that Tim Turner is an angel – or the devil incarnate. What he – I
prefer to believe his handlers – visible and invisible – is doing is
leading us down the HIGHWAY TO HELL! RuSA IS NOT – AS ADVERTISED. IT
IS THE OPPOSITE – OF WHAT THEY ADVERTISE. They consistently don’t do
what they say they will do. When will you catch on? WVa caught on!
We’re bailing out! The ship is burning!

Incidentally, on a governor’s phone call – maybe three weeks ago – I
told Tim that Congress was meeting in secret. They had their
congressional calls – and people weren’t given information as to how
to listen to their congress. Tim promised to correct that. FOLKS, IT
DIDN’T HAPPEN – AND RuSA IS TOTALLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL! GOT IT? Refer to what I said about this above. It has become the norm and so glaringly obvious that people would have to be wearing double blind folds and two paper bags over their heads not to see it.

And I was one of their biggest champions. I got on air and promoted
– promises that didn’t happen to the point where I was discredited.
RuSA has discredited itself BEYOND ALL REDEMPTION. And it grieves me
no end. I grieve for what might have been. I’m horrified at what is.

The good folks in West Virginia see ‘national’ RuSA – for what it is
– not what it’s advertised to be. We want no part of RuSA. If I even
suggested that we stay w/RuSA – they’d be beating on my door by
midnight! We’re dealing with some really bad guys – who hijacked this
– almost a year ago – and they want to trap us all!

The bad guys in the world put people into three categories: 1) Bad
boy players – 2) useful idiots (honest and therefore gullible people)
– and 3) dangerous people – those who are honest and not-so-gullible.
I’m in the last category. I can’t BELIEVE it took me so long to catch
on. And I HATE being duped! I’ve opened my eyes and swallowed my
pride – let go of the dream that turned into a nightmare.

I have never heard of a good man who hasn’t been duped. I’ve never
heard of a good guy who wasn’t set up to be a patsy. That’s where we
are, folks, and it really ticks me off that they duped ME! (and I
thought I was so damn smart) I believe that Tim is under the control
of world-class dupers who’ve tried to dupe AND TRAP us all. I just
read Teri’s ‘divorce’ letter – at the right of the website. I – AND
EVERYONE ELSE IN WEST VIRGINIA I’VE TALKED TO – ARE GOING TO GET OUR
DIVORCE! NOW!

1) Get out of RuSA – send the letters – return receipt requested to
Tim’s address. I have yet to find the address for ‘national’ RuSA.
(CIA headquarters?)

2) Get everyone you know who has signed on to do the same.

IF YOU’VE SIGNED ON TO RuSA – UNDERSTAND THAT THE DE FACTO WHO
HIJACKED IT – HAS YOUR INFORMATION! DOING NOTHING IS SUICIDAL. GET
THOSE LETTERS IN THE MAIL!!!!!!!! GET OFF YOUR BUTT AND DO IT
My message for RuSA: You’re in self-destruct mode – by design – and
we aren’t letting you take us down with you! Got it? RuSA: You’re
exposing yourself. Keep up the good work! And for you folks who
think that those two ladies in Florida got your e-mail addresses from
Teri Hinkle, her database is old. New people got the e-mails. THE
LADIES GOT THE INFO FROM ‘NATIONAL’. Exactly and since I have never shared the data base with anyone other than those Tim Turner instructed me to they had to have gotten it from one of the following, Kelby Smith, CW Wright or Jim Fitzgerald (who has incidentally been emailing state data bases to people off the street who sign up without the state’s knowledge or approval). BTW contrary to the outlandish claim on the governor’s call that it had to have been Jesus Berrios or me, Berrios never had it and even if he had he has had his hands full for months hiding the criminals for Tim and chauffeuring Tama Puna around. The ninny set himself up to be sacrificed for the deeds of others but on this one at least, he isn’t guilty. Don’t believe for a minute any claims that Kelby and CW haven’t had that data base all this time. Tim Turner TOLD ME HIMSELF ON A PHONE CALL WITH ANOTHER OFFICIAL ON THE LINE THAT HE WOULD INSTRUCT KELBY AND CW TO GIVE ME THAT DATA BASE AS SOON AS THE CALL WAS OVER IN FACT HE CHOSE ME TO HAVE IT, I DID NOT EVER ASK FOR IT… instead Kelby set up a radio attack on me and my whole state the following morning and CW put out an unauthorized email calling for a poll vote after both were ordered to hand over the data base and not to say a single negative word. I’m sure you all remember the ridiculous recorded apology on the national call that week and the fake removal of Kelby for a short time afterward. I’m sure the other elected official who was on that call with me and Turner will swear to what I have said. Don’t accept blood money and
don’t pay attention to the controlled opposition from ‘national.’
Just GET OUT! ! Hmmm doesn’t seem to be any blindfolds and paper bags in play there.


I want you to walk away from what I’ve written with two questions –
that I want you to answer for yourself: ‘Do you – trust what
‘national’ – RuSA – is doing? Do you – trust them – not to throw you
into the slammer?’ Hey, it ain’t workin’ folks. And don’t just walk
away – RUN! GET YOUR PAPERWORK DONE!

And I’ve NEVER claimed to be ‘sovereign.’ GOD IS SOVEREIGN! WE
AREN’T! I am a man with God-Given rights, responsibilities, and I
have been given stewardship of what GOD has given me – and that
includes the truth as I see it. And as found in Ezekiel 33, we’re
each other’s watchmen. If you know something – and you don’t let
others know – their blood will be on your hands. I’ve gotten any
blood off my hands by warning you.

And I still love Tim – the man – and his (our) dream – return to
Godly, constitutional government – led by God almighty – not any man!
I fear that Tim (and probably his visible handlers) will be
sacrificed. My parting message – and tears form in my eyes as I write
this: Pray for Tim, Pray for Tim, Pray – for – Tim!

Sincerely, Jim ex-‘governor’ from West Virginia

PS: I’m not suicidal. If you hear that I’ve been charged with a
bunch of false charges and/or carted off to a slave camp – you’ll know
why. And for those who want to do such things – God’s revenge is
exquisite – and I’ve seen Him personally deal with some who set me up
to take great falls in the past.

2 Chronicles 7:14. If we DON’T put God FIRST – He will NOT heal our
land - - -
You all have a true an accurate history above on what happened to just one state and its very honorable governor. West Virginia is just the latest in a string of hostile takeovers by totally unscrupulous methods bearing no resemblance to a Constitutional Republic. The laughable Turner Administration has established a new low in the definition of unconstitutional behavior. All the while the dope on a rope at the top claims he is “not aware” of anything like that having taken place and promises on the governor’s call to “look into it”. He ignores the true statement of the honest man from West Virginia, attempts to humiliate him before his peers, then puts on his “hillbilly redneck persona” and spouts his latest message from God’s answering machine. He then proceeds to admonish the flock to “git er done”. And Oh by the way, his passport is on the way, and money too OH JOY!.
BREAKING NEWS………..
Reliable sources have leaked that Carl Sedlak has made the same offer to Robert Stevens of Hawaii that he made to another governor (who has since been removed) a couple of months ago, to fund with one million dollars any state who will dump Turner and go forth with their individual Republic. Can we say, oooops the national trap hasn’t worked out so well, is imploding as we speak so the de facto had better rely on those still leading the states to cross the line? Oh and did I share that I HEARD SEDLACK WITH MY OWN EARS MAKE THIS SAME OFFER BEFORE? AND DID I MENTION THAT HE CALLED ME PERSONALLY AND ASKED IF I COULD BRING FORTH FUNDING IF TIM TURNER AND THE CALIFORNIA VIPERS NEST WAS GOTTEN RID OF? The only thing surprising about this development is that Robert Stevens thinks he will be around to take advantage of it. Proof of his involvement with the escape of the Dimitrion’s has already been given to the FBI. What goes around comes around Bobby. New can for the Pineapple coming up.
P.S. It doesn’t matter if the authorities pick up the Dimitrions or not anymore. They have the facts of who, how and when now so sooner or later they will pounce on the guilty with or without the fugitives because they do have their own faces to save.

TLGA

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

This is the reason the American Govt has been usurped! Case in point, a perfect example of divide and conquer.

Ron Paul 2012 - The real answer!

Anonymous said...

Tim turner and his group made us all look like fools because we fell for their b.s. we made the mistake of talking about it to other,kelby is still on the air with valerie kirkgard on ( waking up in america voice of america). what a bunch of crooks, I guess they just wanted signature to securitize them,like the fed does. I guess the parasite race that controls the world won't let go.

Anonymous said...

Anyone who has believed that Tim Turners group or any other group for that matter that is going to change the system is delusional. Americans have been dumbed down which has taken generations for the PTBs to accomplish. It will never be changed overnight or even in a few years. The elite are in control, in government, big business and the military, and you can do nothing about it. This country is doomed! The sheeple will follow the elite to the edge of the cliff and then jump when they are told to. So forget about the ET's saving you, prosperity packs, Dinar RV and all the other crap that Nidle, Poof, Fulford and Casper tell you. They are part of the problem and controlled by the elite. So wake up people and see what is going on around the world you live in. Make your peace with your Maker, family and friends because it's only going to get worse.

Anonymous said...

I hear this filth spewing out of the mouths of people who say they love God. I don't see anyone coming forward with any alternate ideas. Just a bunch of whining losers who hate....hate... God is love not hate! God is forgivness! So go back and crawl under the rock you came out of. say they love God. I don't see anyone coming forward with any alternate ideas. Just a bunch of whining losers who hate....hate... God is love not hate! God is forgivness! So go back and crawl under the rock you came out of.

Anonymous said...

I am tired of it all! The republic, the de facto government, the religious crackpots that mix their beliefs with tortured quips from alleged sacred books and declare that they have the truth. Nobody is perfect, everyone born in society is infected with its' beliefs that are worshiped as facts from on high. Most of those beliefs are insane when viewed from outside the group(s) that created them. Tim, why did you stop doing the freedom documents seminars?

Anonymous said...

because they don't work well enough and people are in jail and he can't help them. Satan rules in our courts in this country and the lawyers are foreign agents for the crown of london. Short of a revolution I can't see us ridding ourselves of the evil scum.

Anonymous said...

This is SO SAD. I stopped participating WAY back during the first effort when Tim's lies got too deep for me to believe, although I thought there were some really "good-hearted" people not into all the fighting that wanted a real effort to succeed.

With this article I can see that it's been nothing but bickering and backbiting ever since, and I'm glad not to have wasted my time. It's clear that even if Tim were NOT involved, all the other bitchers & complainers could not have created a working structure. It's certainly not the Jamestown spirit!